Why Doesn’t Scientology Work”

This went up in December but I saw it for the first time today.   skoek reads items he finds on the net.  This one from Just Bill is pretty good.

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19 Comments on “Why Doesn’t Scientology Work””

  1. SCILONSBESTFRIEND Says:

    Mark, why you erase the posted link? That link brought people to my personal web page about all the personal dox on all the scilon trolls. It took me months to get it all together and several ignored legal threats and hassles from that bitch Ava P******** and her office. I mean if you want I can send you the folder my guy got from that dude in Clearwater. He apparently worked with the church for 8 months and apparently wasn’t paid his full amount and made copies of everything he did including the fake ass non legally binding contract the OSA agent made him sign. Also everything on the people he was told to investigate including the people for the online black PR campaign. It also has pics, legal dox, and something from Mox***’s law firm. Actually I’m gonna send you it even if you don’t want it cuz maybe someday you will need it for a counter suit if their is a law suit against you and you need even more proof of harassment from them and fair game from them. Don’t worry I will send it to you quietly so no one gets upset about laws and statutes. Ill scan all 11 pages and get it to you in two different forms so in case one gets lost…. The original I keep at a friends house who is not involved in anon or scilon struggle and don’t want to loose my only hard copy of the original copy. Thanks again for having a 50 pound nut sack.

  2. XENU TV Says:

    What posted link? i deleted a couple responses with a private phone number in them. If they also contained that link, I am sorry. Post the link again without “Tom Newton’s” phone number in the comment and there’s no problem.

  3. Nashville Anon Says:

    Sorry to go off topic here Mark, but rumor over on WWP says it is your birthday.

    Happy Birthday Mark!!!!

  4. question Says:

    how can i send something without everyone seeing it. is their a private form of communication directly to Mr. Bunker?

  5. Anonomomily Says:

    Please give credit where credit is due.

    The words are wise. The man is Just Bill.

    http://askthescientologist.blogspot.com/2008/04/if-scientology-worked.html

  6. Anon anon Says:

    @SCILONSBESTFRIEND Mark isn’t into doxing people.
    If you really have these dox, offer them up on WWP.
    DO NOT POST PERSONAL INFO THERE, but you can post links to the scanned black PR dox if you have them. Anons would enjoy.

  7. XENU TV Says:

    Thanks, Anonomomily. I was trying to find that earlier and just found an alternative version.

    My email address is markbunker@gmail.com if anyone want to contact me.

    I’m not opposed to links to sites with information but just slapping people’s private info up here isn’t nice, no matter who it is.

    Although I have to say Tom Newton’s blog post about my taking down of his private information is hysterical. Rather than thank me, he blames me and concocts another of his looney tales.

  8. Xenumania Says:

    The comments on the video are spot on in my opinion. I made it a favorite on my youtube channel. It’s a good video.

  9. Dont Feed The Trolls, only i can.... Says:

    I love that Tom responds to some comments… the ones he and his cult handlers can twist to fit their argument but he always ignores the comments about providing proof. ED does not equal proof. A web page that says its satire only and the fact some entries on ED are also in the world of fighting the cult of $cientology like the words Tom Newton, Anon, Scilon, Tommy “I fucked up under pressure and admitted to Xenu on live television” Davis, DM, etc, etc. It doesn’t mean that anonymous are pedophiles. What kind of logic is that? The reason no one backs Tom up in these discussions is that no one after five minutes of being on this blog realize he is a scilon troll who can’t see reality even when hundreds of people show him proof. Speaking a pedophilia I heard a scilon raped a 14 year old. I guess he was a anon spy we sent into the cult right tom? Cuz only anonymous are perverts and not scilons who make the news for it. What a douche. Why do you people feed the troll. Let him starve to death and he will be gone in a month. All you people coming here are the reason we have Tom Newton all over anon boards. Why bother telling him the facts. He cant see them cuz his “church” says thinking for yourself is PTS and he will get in trouble for that. He told me he hates running this site and wants to stop but has 4 years of “freeloader debt” to pay off. It was me who called him from my old work on the phone in the back of a grocery store I worked at as a pharmacy tech and he told me about black counter pr online and the 4 units that work to troll and spam to make scilon look better. You have to understand the church is shitting bricks because anonymous hasn’t “petered out” like they thought we would. And now they know anon can do more with less. When we had 10k members in the beginning of 08 how much fail for the cult happed? Only a few. Now with only a few thousand anons left we are getting much more results. (Case in point. Look at France)

    PLEEZ DON’T FEED THE TROLL. LET HIM EAT K RATIONS AND SUCK DM OFF… THAT IS HIS OTHER JOB WHEN HE IS DONE MAKING ALL SCILONS LOOK BAD BY NOT WINNING THE ARGUMENT ANYWHERE

    I’m serious its bad for the cult when he fails to prove his opinions to the few people who might actually come here looking for both sides and they see how bad and in denial he is. It makes them look real bad. Makes them look block headed. People see that and say “I want nothing to due with that “church” if I cant think for myself like this scilon I met online” I’m telling you it hurts their numbers bad, and definitely hurts them online. Not that taking on computer nerds who live online for a living was a good idea.I know a little about computers but not enough to take on chans and mods and all the other names you people have for having no social skills or girlfriends but being able to fuck my life up with a computer and reek mad damage to people who fuck with computer nerds. Maybe even hack into the National Defense and launch a “cruise missile” at Tom Newton!

  10. Avery1 Says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARK! Hope you get lots of special treats

  11. w0g4life Says:

    Great video.

    Mr. Newton should be ignored. We all know he is a gargantuan liar and is completely self aware of this fact. He is here only to smear the “Anti-Scientology racket” and Anonymous to the best of his/OSA’s ability. There is no point in debating him on any level in any situation on any topic.


  12. Happy Birthday Mark. Ant that is a kick ass video from Skoek. People should check out his youtube channel off the same name.

  13. 3rdMan Says:

    Nice vid.

  14. XenuWog Says:

    Anonmomily,links to everything he reads are in the INFO section of every video.

  15. Anonomomily Says:

    I disagree, but I’ve already had this argument elsewhere. I leave it to Just Bill and Cactus Jack.

  16. ? Says:

    WHERE TOM BEEN THE LAST 72 HOURS… HE NO TROLLING?… MAYBE HE DEAD OR ITS HIS TURN TO CARRY DM AROUND ON HIS SHOULDERS.

  17. volcano vaporizer cost me $649!!! but it sweet, no smoke only vapor it heats the trichomes right off the bud Says:

    Well you will be back so i might as leave this for you so when you arrive you will have anice mornig message about your cult…..

    Tom the trial for your cult starts today in France. Go head and say all of France are pedo criminals. Go head and stay on the attack. It seems to be working for you. After all its only been a year and a half… your doing a great job stopping anonymous. Your doing a great job turning the public away from us. What about that counter raid or the “ongoing investigation from the FBI” that you said was happening. What a fail douche. No wonder why the cult is losing. You need facts and proof to get the public on your side. Because with $cientology the cards are already stacked against you cuz of Tom Cruise and Southpark and Anon and that all of the US thinks when they here the word $cientology is this: Xenu, Southpark, cult, Tom Cruise, weird space alien “religion” that I would not be interested in as a normal citizen…..
    NOT TO MENTION THE CULT IS THE CULTS WORSE ENEMY. YOUR “ATTACK THE ATTACKER” POLICY MAKES YOU THE …..”THE CONTROVERSIAL CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY…” THAT IS HOW YOU ARE PORTRAYED IN THE MEDIA WHENEVER A STORY ABOUT YOU GOOD OR BAD IS SHOWN IN THE MEDIA. IT IS ALWAYS THE CONTROVERSIAL CHURCH DID THIS OR THE CONTROVERSIAL CHURCH DID THAT. THAT LITTLE WORD INFRONT OF YOUR CHURCHES NAME IS WHAT DRIVES PEOPLE AWAY. THEY THINK WHY ARE THEY “CONTROVERSIAL” AND “I DON’T WAN TO BE PART OF SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A FUTURE PROBLEM FOR ME”. I’M TELLING YOU THIS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT… YOUR ACTIONS AND DM’s ACTIONS ARE MAKING THE GENERAL PUBLIC THINK SCIENTOLOGY IS A BIG JOKE AND A WEIRD TOM CRUISE NO PRESCRIPTION DRUG TAKING WEIRDO IN THAT VIDEO THAT LENO, FERGUSON, NBC, ABC, MSNBC AND ALL THE CABLE SHOWS MADE SPOOFS OUT OF AND EVERYONE IN THE US SAW TOM CRUISE ACTING LIKE A RAVING LUNATIC AND THOUGHT… “THIS IS THE FACE OF SCIENTOLOGY.” TOM I WILL ADMIT THIS TO YOU NOW….. TOM CRUISE’S ERRATIC BEHAVIOR AND THE SOUTHPARK XENU EPISODE AND SCILONS FORCING CHEF TO QUIT AND MAKING EVERY NEWS CHANNEL PROBABLY DID MORE TO HURT THE CULTS PUBLIC IMAGINE THAN ALL OF ANONYMOUS’ ACTIONS FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS TOGETHER!

    I PREDICT THAT WITHIN 1 YEAR THE CHURCH WILL BE NOT DISSOLVES IN THE US BUT UNDER INTENSE MEDIA ND POLITICAL PRESSURE. NOT GONE…. BUT DOWN HARD FOR GOOD AND SLOWLY PETERED OUT AND DISAPPEAR AND WE WILL NEVER HERE OF DAVID “I’M ONLY 4’9 AND HAVE ASTHMA” MISCAVIGE EVER AGAIN

  18. Lore_Weaver Says:

    I think Scientology will change when the people in charge actually believe the religion.

    Compare it to 17th Century Mormonism.

  19. dr.fang Says:

    RE: Handling Tom Newton

    The great thing about having an OSA troll on the board is that *they are reading what we write*.

    So, rather than get into a pissing match, why not take advantage of an opportunity to do someone some good?

    If you really want to fight the Church’s deceptive practices, why not take away one of their workers who has been decieved?

    We know that the Church is taking advantage of them. So, they’re either true believers and therefore are ignorant of how they are wasting their lives and money on a lie; or they *know* that the Church is defrauding people.

    In the first case; it’s hard to argue against reality. Eventually the OSA guys are going to realize that 2 + 2 really does equal 4-and then they will have found their own “ruin”. Then, they are going to make the connection that if they continue working for CoS, they’re going to waste their lives on a lie (fear of worsening). And thus they go on up through the Awareness Characteristics to Help and Hope- until they route out or they blow. (There’s the *real* “Bridge to Total Freedom” for you!)

    If they’re like Larry Brennan, they *know* that the religion angle is a sham, and eventually their conscience will get the best of them. After all, Robert Vaughn Young and Mike Rinder blew, didn’t they? You can’t say to yourself that you’re ethical and continue to lie and do other unethical things-regardless of how many dynamics you’re counting. You may fool other people, but in the end you cannot fool yourself. (See you soon, Tommy Davis!)

    I have faith that the vast majority of people who are attracted to Scientology are very good people at heart, and they really want to do the right thing and help others.

    You’re not going to win an argument with someone like that by insulting and degrading them. They expect “suppressive” people to act that way, and you only confirm the lie they’ve been told.

    The best way to handle someone like that is to treat them with love. If you really want to help people get free of the cult, why would you insult them?

    Why would you allow yourself to be offended by someone that we all know is trying to think logically off of false assumptions? Why would you allow yourself to become upset by someone who you know is trying to upset you because some paranoid fiction writer tricked them into “handling” you?

    You can only keep showing them the truth, and eventually they will not be able to deny it any longer. If you really want to help someone in the CoS, be respectful, be honest, and be there for them. Eventually, statistics show that 5/6 Sea Org members figure out that they’re being lied to, and leave. And over 99% of people who take a Scientology course eventually leave the organization. Don’t blow someone’s chance to be free by feeding into their paranoia on the Internet.

    And for you, “Tom”, I give you this message: In the back of your mind you have doubts. If what you’ve been told is really true, you’ll be able to confirm it outside of Church sources. Why doesn’t the Church encourage people to get both sides and make up their own minds? Why does the Church require you to “audit out” information that they don’t control? Why aren’t you trusted to make your own decisions as to what to believe, and why can’t you discuss your beliefs with other people?

    In exactly what way are you more “free” than you were when you joined the Church?:-/


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