Cover Up


There’s been a raft of new Scientologists commenting on my YouTube videos recently, or at least new nicks.  I went to the profile of AdriannaDelMar and read her very long defense of the Hubbard quote, “dispose of them quietly and without sorrow.”

“To answer some questions with regards to what LRH meant when he referred to those 2.0 and below on the tone scale, please read the following and stop misinterpreting it.

“When Hubbard talks of ‘people from 2.0 down’ being hard to reason with he is referring to those at and below 2.0 on the Tone Scale, ie, those who are antagonistic, or angry, or who are secretly hostile to others, etc.

Science of Survival helps practitioners raise people on the Tone Scale, up into the higher brackets and thus helping them to become happier and more joyful. The three methods outlined are:

1) Education – learning the tools and knowledge necessary to improve oneself and conditions in life.

2) Change in environment – move out of a hostile or antagonistic environment and into an environment that is more positive and higher toned.

3) Auditing – receive Scientology counseling which frees up more of one’s own natural, positive energy, enabling one to be happier and more able in life.

These are known as the three valid processes which Hubbard mentions in the above quotation. These processes are used by Auditors on their clients to help them achieve heightened states of being.

However, a very small percentage of people who are stuck, chronically, in the lower bands on the Tone Scale do not respond to the three processes, and does not make much, if any, gain in Scientology as a whole. Such individuals often exert negative, oppressive influences on others and tend to be destructive in nature.

Such an individual would be taken off services (which would be refunded) and routed-out of Scientology.

“Our policy is we don’t waste time on them. To cater to them is to betray 90% of the population. So we set them aside for another day. We get them offlines, out of orgs and to one side.” L. Ron Hubbard, from HCO PL 16 Oct 1967, SUPPRESSIVES & THE ADMINISTRATOR

In this fashion, they are indeed disposed of quietly and without sorrow.

Those who have no knowledge of Auditing policy, and Church structure as a whole, are quick to misinterpret these words of Hubbard’s. Unfortunately, when these misinterpretations are propagated to others as fact, hysteria and intolerance can, and do, occur”. 

I wanted to post a reply to her profile but it wouldn’t allow me so here’s my response:

You have put an awful lot of effort into spinning Hubbard’s “dispose of them quietly and without sorrow.” Here’s some more from Science of Survival which you didn’t quote:

“The reasonable man quite ordinarily overlooks the fact that people from 2.0 down have no traffic with reason and cannot be reasoned with as one would reason with a 3.0. “

What else is below 2.0 on the tone scale? Pain, fear, anxiety, despair, sympathy (oddly enough) victim, apathy, dying… But what did Hubbard really say about handling these people in the exact same section of Science of Survival:

“The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line — a task which, indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be in excess of two hundred — or simply quarantining them from the society. “

So Hubbard would quarantine these people — not just deprive them of Scientology services. Huh. Now, why would you lie about that?  And what was the anecdote he used to describe this process:

“A Venezuelan dictator  once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country.”

Not quite the same thing you are saying, is it Adrianna?  Why are you squirreling Source?  And do you really think lies are going to help you?

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9 Comments on “Cover Up”

  1. xenutv Says:

    Why hasn’t Tom Newton finished “shredding anonymous” and brought about our destruction….? Oh wait that’s right Tom just needs to quote ED a little more and then everyone will believe him. Well before Tom starts lurking let me ask a rhetorical question to him: can he provide “evidence” about any so called crime committed by anonymous if he cant use ED as a source. Can he quote any “proof” without having to twist the story and add in a URL for some ED page that has nothing to do with peaceful protesting of the cult of $cientology. Oh who am I kidding TomBot won’t die unless ED goes offline and Toms infinite source of everything anonymous goes away and he can’t provide “absolute hard evidence” any more (hahahah evidence, lol) Like how every member of anonymous and you too Tom for going their yourself to jack off to pink bears and those others who only visit ED and all of which are obvious pedophiles right. Blah blah blah I can’t believe he thinks he can win against a whole army of people who all universally don’t know or even care about each other but who all share a common bond….. they have had very negative experiences with the cult of $cientology. And the best thing is the blown members bring new information with them everytime they leave the cult and we use that to wage our war which is practically at its middle. I know anonymous has YEARS of fighting still to do but let me ask you this… the cult or anonymous? Who can outlast who? We need very little money and resources to practically shut down the church and restrict any new members and hurt its public image all with almost no money or resources and very little supplies and yet on the other hand they spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year on all sorts of fail shit and its gets them nothing but big fancy empty building and when they harass newcomers those being harassed get embolden and they now feel like it is personal and they feel the fight against the cult is a just fight and deserves ALOT of the individuals time and money and effort. The cult is after all the cults worst enemy. By attacking everyone they create new anti-$cientology supporters everyday, not just anonymous but everyday normal people who got mixed up in fair game by asking a simple question to a scilon like “What is your religion about? Is it really about aliens and lots of forced donations?” and then boom they are followed and harassed and fair gamed and then right their $cientology has a new life long enemy who would have probably forgot it if the cult didn’t push the person into taking a real stance against them. And new ideal orgs filled with nothing but empty air is not gonna go well when you got bills and lawyer fees and court cost and PR boners left and right cuz I for one will never give up. I know the hard core anons who will never and I mean never stop fighting the cult. And now we can do more with less. I mean after all in the beginning with almost 12 thousand members shit wasn’t popping in the news all that much but now as were down to a few thousand world wide the TV and Internet are alive with anti-$cientology stories. We may not be able to make your current brainwashed members quit but I can say with absolute assurance that you will not be getting any new members and eventually you will bleed them dry and they will physically have no more money and you will be forced to sell scilon properties and maybe even the rights to some LRH copyrights. Oh fuck it I’m tired of telling the world were winning and $cientology has been losing for at least the early 90’s when stat drops were at their worst then a slight rebound in the early 2000’s with the help of celebs but even now ask yourself this: When was the last time a real, for real type, celeb publicly praise scilon and said they support it as a whole other than Will Smith or other cultist that been indoctrinated. When did you see Juliet Lewis or fat ass Kirstie or Giovanni Ribisi or that blond dyke at a CCHR function. FUCK YOU $CAMOLOGY. anonymous legally can’t fail.

  2. Adam Says:

    Why has this become the “Dialogue with Tom Newton” site? He hasn’t even said anything yet and you’re already talking about him. Seriously, ignore the guy. He’s a troll, and the simple rule about trolls is that if you ignore them, they go away. And even if he doesn’t go away, this is merely a battle of words. No one is going to win this fight, he’ll just come back with something else, which he’s done time and time again. He spews his vitriol in order to illicit a reaction, which is exactly what you’re giving to him. Just ignore the guy.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    @Adam:

    That’s Tom. He’s talking about himself. Also ,that’s the first post on all of the entries in the blog for the past week or so.

  4. George of the jungle Says:

    Would somebody please ban Tom? He used to be just a troll, but now he’s nothing more than a spammer…


  5. Great response XenuTV. I love throwing $cientology yargon right back at them. Theres so much you can use and keep on going. Like hubbard racist remarks about blacks and Chinese. Or R2-45, plus many of his other rambolings in his “sacred scriptures” and policy letters. But $cilons always attack and when contronted with people that know just shut up and leave it. They only want to defend themselves to the ignorant, or “damage control” as i often call it. Well theres far too much out there to damge control. Well done to everyone for exposing them.

    But its one thing educating the public. I mostly want to expose $cientology to the very followers. The Cult is corrupt and very sinister. Hopefully the more innocent members will stop funding the criminal bosses. After all does anyone know the last time David Miscavige done auditing? Shouldnt it tell them something whenever the head doesnt practice it? Rather he seems to dream up new ways to rip them off everyday. Sickening really.

  6. Kenny Says:

    I can only recommend anyone to read the quote in context for themselves and come to their own conclusion.
    (Not because i think it’s worthwile to read it, but just because Scientologists like to claim, that the meaning of the “disposed of ..” quote and the whole rambling about 1.1-ers would somehow change when read in context.)
    You will find a link to download the book “Science of Survival” in this thread:
    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/because-somebody-needed-do-38829/

    Information is free.

  7. Bill W Says:

    I sent a personal message to Adrianna thru YouTube asking about her feelings regarding the RPF. I asked her to explain some of the stories that come out of ex-CO$ memebers about the RPF. I asked if the Catholic Church must answer for sexual abuse and if the LDS church must answer for plural marriage, then there needs to be an explination regarding the RPF. She has yet to respond to me, but I will pass on the info should she chose to respond.

  8. Mark Bunker Says:

    She hasn’t responded to me on YouTube and even deleted my comments from her profile page. Funny how she doesn’t want to really communicate.

  9. KILL THE CULT Says:

    What does legal protesting in front of the cult of $cientology buildings have to do with ED? Tom has been asked a million times to provide proof of any arrest or conviction for bomb threats or death threats or pedophilia activity and all he can do is say “Go to ED” Can you provide any proof other that one image on ED. Tom, what it if ED went offline today. What would you do? No one but anonymous visit this blog so it doesn’t matter anyway but without ED your already pointless words reach even less in their meaning. Let me guess your response… how about a link for Gunzel getting arrested. Although I guess you have a different computer than mine cuz I didn’t see any thing about death or bomb threats or pedophilia or anything you accuse anonymous with. Just one individual forced to say anonymous made me do this to save his ass about one DDOS attack. Nothing about your allegations. In fact as recently as DEC 08 the police and FBI confirmed (during the research before the Baca fiasco for your cult)that no arrest or investigation is taking place or will take place for the “bomb, death threats, powder you guys sent yourselves or any illegal sexual activity” You fail on so many levels. Tom think about it. People who are still unsure about anonymous get pushed to our side when you can’t prove them you are right. You just make the cult look bad. Someone comes here and sees what your argument is and thinks all scilons are losers in denial cultist with no perception of reality. Prove me and thousands other wrong by simply getting public records to back up your claims and post them on the site.

    SHOW ME PROOF OF ANY ARREST FOR DEATH OR BOMB THREATS OR TERRORIST ACTIVITY OR PEDOPHILIA. NOT SOME PICTURE ON A CHAN BOARD OR ED. SHOW ME AN ARREST RECORD. ACCORDING TO YOU ALL TEN THOUSAND ANONYMOUS MEMBERS ARE ALL PEDO’S… WHERE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC ARREST AND PROSECUTION RECORDS. THEY ARE FREE TO ACCESS FROM THE ACCOMPANYING MUNICIPALITY (PROVIDED THEY EXIST -WHICH THEY DON’T- CUZ NO ONE HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR OR EVEN INVESTIGATED BEYOND THE DDOS SHIT BUT ACCORDING TO YOU THEIR SHOULD BE HUNDRED IF NOT THOUSANDS OF RECORDS FOR THAT HORRIBLE ANONYMOUS PEACE MOVEMENT)


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