Marty Rathbun: Exit Counselor?

Marty Rathbun and Jason Beghe, Together Again

Marty Rathbun and Jason Beghe, Together Again

Marty was one of the top exec’s in Scientology, part of David Miscavige’s inner circle and when he blew Scientology some time back it was a mighty blow to Miscavige.  He was followed in time by Mike Rinder, Ben Shaw and others.  There has been a huge drain of resources in Scientology because of David Miscavige’s leadership.

Nothing has been heard of Marty since he blew.  For a long time, it was rumored he had died of cancer.  I think Miscavige preferred that explanation for Marty’s disappearance over the fact that so many have been fed up with DM’s management style of screaming rampages, beatings and locking people up in the RPF.

Now, Rathbun has reappeared and is offering to help others who have fled David Miscavige’s version of Scientology.

I was a member of the Sea Organization for twenty-seven years. I learned how to audit and troubleshoot virtually any technical problem at every level of Scientology. For years prior to leaving the Church I was regularly called upon by its top-ranking members to resolve its toughest and, in many instances, most high profile cases.Having dug myself out of the dark pit where many who leave the Church land, I began lending a hand to others similarly situated.  

A lot of folks seem to be suffering from the inculcated idea that once they depart or cease to slavishly follow every arbitrary dictate they automatically forfeit any spiritual gains they may have attained along the road. Natively conscientious as most beings are, such an evaluation can begin a pernicious dwindlng spiral of self-invalidation and unhappiness. 

I understand this phenomenon and the internal dichotomies extant within the organization that bring it about. In the process of reversing the decline in myself and in others certain lessons were learned that might be of some assistance to those who have experienced the same.

I offer a simple program of rehabilitation of previously recognized abilities and education on universal truths and principles of spiritual growth. I do not offer a substitute for Scientology nor am in competition with the Church. I am only offering to share all the skills I have learned – from a wide variety of sources – to help those in need who once formally participated in Scientology but who now hold no hope nor intention of ever seeking help from the Church.

He’s set up a payment plan for his aid that is in stark contrast to how Scientology charges for their services.

My services cost whatever you think they are worth, within your means,after completion. I ask that you pay me one-half of whatever you determine that value to be when you head back home. Then, if after a month you believe your original estimation was correct you can send me the other half, or not. It is entirely up to you.

Offer what you think my services are worth?  That sounds more like a religious donation — a passing of the plate, if you will — than Scientology “fixed donations” for it’s expensive self-help courses.

Miscavige should look around him at what he has done.  If he doesn’t see that it is time for him to step down, perhaps he will see that a palace coup is inevitable.

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18 Comments on “Marty Rathbun: Exit Counselor?”

  1. Shimmy Shapiro Says:

    My goodness. This is a surprise.

  2. Xchidna Says:

    Scientology on its way to becoming an actual religion? Gasp and shock. I do wonder if that’s a good or bad thing, though, since the tech’s supposed to be used purely to control people… but eh.

  3. bt Says:

    Mark, here’s hoping that Marty is willing to speak in front of your camera. Even if he’s still a true-believing exponent of LRH and unwilling to spill church secrets, documenting his point of view could prove very valuable.

  4. Avery1 Says:

    “I learned how to audit and troubleshoot virtually any technical problem at every level of Scientology.”

    The reason there are problems at every level of Scientology is because Scientology is a CON. It doesn’t work. I’m sorry – I believe in freedom of religion but you can’t pretend that Scientology is OK except for the corrupt parts. It is all corrupt. It was founded by a conman.

  5. Mike Says:

    “I learned how to audit and troubleshoot virtually any technical problem at every level of Scientology.”

    That sounds a little worrisome. Anyone seeking help from him might want to have him explain his current view on Xenu and body thetans.

  6. 3rdman Says:

    I’m gonna be devil’s advocate here: Marty’s statements doesn’t necessarily sound like he is telling Scientologists: “You can be a Scientologist and not kiss DM’s butt or pay them tons of money and loyalty.”
    It sounds like he’s trying to build another Scientology religion, but he still has the mentality that he can put a price on religion.

    If he were to agree to give these services for nothing, that would be a step in the right direction.

  7. Artoo45 Says:

    Is he trying to be the Martin Luther of the “church”? What the clams need is a Martin Luther KING to free them from the fail.

  8. Bill Says:


    You are a good man. I deeply respect you, but perhaps it would have been nice to have given a little more information on your blog about Rathbun’s past and about all the horrible things he did to ruins people’s lives.

    I would not trust that fool as far as I can throw him. I don’t care what his intentions are. The things he did while in the cult are unforgiveable.

  9. Mark Bunker Says:

    I assume that people can google. I’m merely passing along an interesting tidbit and turn of event.

    When people leave Scientology it takes a while to recover. For many, they will start with the belief that “if Hubbard were still here this wouldn’t be happening.”

    In time, if they keep digging, they’ll see that Hubbard started everything DM is continuing.

    For now, the fact that a high level exec is standing with a high profile celebrity and saying there’s something wrong here that’s screw people up and leaves people wounded and in need of healing, sends an important message.

    It may not be the message you want to send. It may not be the only message this conveys or they will ever convey.

    But, for now, DM can’t be happy they are sending any message at all. And I’m just passing the message along.

  10. xuzacac Says:

    “He’s set up a payment plan for his aid that is in stark contrast to how Scientology charges for their services.”

    That’s true. It’s a nice scheme…

    If you read attentively you will also see that Rathbun is in fact not interested to actually deliver Scn services. His main interest is to free people from the idea that there is something wrong with them for leaving the CoS.

  11. Tequila Says:

    I am given to understand that the picture of Mark and Jason Beghe is actualy a few years old.

    Do you know if Jason has made any statements concerning this new development and the use of his image on the front of Mark Rathbun’s website?


  12. Anonymous Says:

    1. Steal money from people looking for help under the guise of Scientology
    2. Leave the cult
    3. Steal money from people looking for help under the guise of Ex-Scientologist
    4. ???
    5. PROFIT.

  13. Hatshepsut Says:

    After 15 years inside and much hanging around the Flag HGCs, I don’t really have disillusionment with a lot.. Any time you have a heirarchy where there are haves, and can’t haves you end up with ‘make nothing ofs’. You shouldn’t make people WANT what you have SO bad and then forbid them to be able to reach for it. Put up stops and barriers at every turn. Many a beautiful girl has found herself treated awfully and degraded after igniting the rage in a man that at first couldn’t HAVE her.. so now she’s not all that..

  14. Investigator Says:

    I know Mark Rathbun. This person in the photo is not Mark Rathbun.

  15. Chris Says:

    Marty, Do you actually think that this is going to work and that you are going to throw that little shit DM off his high horse. If so, more power to you if only to have done to Dave as he has done to so many people. Command Channels Eval, ha, ha, ha.

    You also have to know that your past actions are not beyond rebuke. After all you were Dave’s strong arm for a long time and by the sounds of it realized that what was being done was and is criminal.

    I worked for you for a while and like others, was squeezed for every ounce of effort that could be drained out of me. I learned a great deal from this however, religion in any form should be free and not be for profit. When people work for free because they believe in something (all staff at the Int/Gold Base) how can you then turn around and profit from it… Drive nice cars, eat good food and have staff waiting on you hand and foot. CRIMINAL… All the while telling them that they are the criminals. They are brain washed, not allowed to interact with the rest of the world, disconnected from their loved ones to work for YOU…

    Don’t act like there is some mission that still needs to be accomplished. That was already messed up a long time ago… I think that you had your chance and fucked it up… Time to arrive in PT and go to hell like the rest of the little people…

  16. Mike Says:

    Dear Mr Rathbun,

    You and I know a coward, you threw DM under the bus and even if you are right (you might be), you are the worst offender of your same crimes.

    I will to this day, never forget what you did to me on May 31st, 1997 to me in front on your entourage, with your 10 man plus gang bang metered interview.

    You ruined my life, my wife’s and at the time my 7 year old daughter. And ultimately you probably caused the eventual cancer death of my mother Claire.

    I have since left for 12 years now but never have nor never will I “turn”, “flip” and that is because I established a real career over the past 12 years. You have obviously have not.

    Shame on you, you are pathetic.

  17. Tequila Says:

    Mike…how odd your comment occurs while the St. Pete Times is doing an expose’ on David Miscavige and Scientology.

    How odd indeed.

    (I am on no way defending Marty Rathbun..but the timing of this attack is not a mere coincidence)

  18. Theo Sismanides Says:

    Dear Marty,

    Thank you for exposing David Miscavige on St. Petersberg’s Times. That’s what you should have done. Maybe you should have beaten him, but alright. We understand as Scientologists who have still to learn after so many years. But still, my hat is off to you for your interview there and I am looking to find you.
    Thanks a lot
    Theo Sismanides

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