Tory’s Message to John Travolta

Tory posted a video tonight about her experiences inside Scientology.  They wanted to force her off her medications for epilepsy.  Medicine that prevented seizures.

John Travolta spoke about his son Jett’s health issues on Larry King in 2001.  Reports have said that Jett was autistic but the family always denied that and said that Jett had Kawasaki Syndrome.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta talks about Kawasaki Syndrome with Anderson Cooper.

Andrew Sullivan of the Atlantic ponders What Killed Jett Travolta? in his Daily Dish column.

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30 Comments on “Tory’s Message to John Travolta”

  1. General Public Says:

    Travolta blames cleaning chemicals for his son’s affliction although cause and effect can’t be adequately established by medical authorities. He said it was handled in 48 hours. By whom? And what does ‘handled actually mean? Cured?

    According to a statement by the mother Kelly Preston this meant subjecting the child to a detoxication program based on scientology tech. It is said to have improved his health. This seems highly unlikely.
    Rather, if he was treated, he responded to the standard treatment for the disease: the administration of intravenous immunoglobin or a form of therapy using aspirin.

    Dr Gupta states that Kawasaki syndrome primarily effects young children under five. Failure to treat it early enough may result in cardiac complications, such as inflammation of blood vessels which can lead to heart attacks. As Japanese children are more likely than other children to contract the disease, regardless of where they are living, this suggests a genetic susceptibility.

    But Jett Travolta died of a seizure, which Dr Gupta says would be an unusual effect of Kawasaki syndrome. Seizures affect the brain and occur from any of a number of causes. Jett is said to have a history of seizures according to a statement by Superintendant Basil Rahming in the Bahamas. What treating was he getting for them? In the suspicion naturally arising, due to our knowledge of the scientology preference for their ‘tech’ over the proven methods of medical science, it has yet to be disproved that what occured was a serious, if not criminal, example of parental neglect.

  2. anonymous Says:

    “But Jett Travolta died of a seizure”

    Wow – amazing OT powerz!!! Here we are all waiting that two prominent specialists perform an autopsy on Jett’s body Monday morning, but you…, you… you already know the cause of death!

    Congratulation!

    You are AMAZING! Anonymous is AMAAAAZING!

    “it has yet to be disproved that what occured was a serious, if not criminal, example of parental neglect”

    Sorry to disappoint you, General Public, but where I live, the burden of proof is on the one making the allegation.

    And your proof is what?

    “Suspicion”???

    Based on your tremendouzzz OT Powerz that allows you to know in advance of the whole world what exactly Jett died of?

    Don’t make me laugh, will you?

  3. Belinda Says:

    Save your incoherant rant until after the autopsy, scilon.

  4. XENU TV Says:

    I believe multiple news reports stated that Jett had apparently suffered a seizure leading to his death. I’m not sure if reading the New York Times constitutes OT powers but if so, I claim them:

    NASSAU, Bahamas (AP) — The actor John Travolta’s teenage son, Jett, died on Friday in the Bahamas after apparently suffering a seizure at his family’s vacation home, the authorities said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/us/03travolta.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=jett%20travolta&st=cse

  5. anonymous Says:

    LOL – Mark🙂

    So because the New York times said so then it must be true, because, of course, they would know better than the autopsy that did not happen yet…

    Nobody is denying the fact that the press widely reports he died of seizure, but at this stage, it still is speculation and we wouldn’t know for sure until we have the autopsy report,

    This doesn’t prevent your Anonymous friend to already be 100% certain that it was the cause of death. Apparently, you agree with him, because the New York times said so…

  6. Mike Says:

    My cousin’s three-year-old boy suffered Kawasaki’s a year ago. The boy’s parents were actually able, despite the panic, to look up the symptoms on the net and mention Kawasaki’s to the doctor, which probably helped get a correct diagnosis quickly. He had rapidly progressing inflammation of his blood vessels and he was was treated with intravenously administered immunoglobulin. He made a full recovery, but the doctors were very careful about checking for damage in the heart during the follow-up. I don’t think I heard anyone mention anything about seizures or any other problems with the central nervous system during the whole thing.

  7. XENU TV Says:

    The Times says he apparently suffered a seizure. I thought that was clear when I posted the exact quote.

    If you have an MU, you should clear each word in the article.

  8. TOM NEWTON Says:

    TORY MAGOO TRAMPLES ON JETT TRAVOLTA’S MEMORY

    More gibberish from the QUEEN OF HERESAY HERSELF, TORY MAGOO, this time about the recently deceased Jett Travolta, whom she supposedly knew in her own peculiar way:

    “…and I know Jett…and I know the situation…I never met him but I know him…I’ve heard tons of stories about him…”

    She rambles on for just over two minutes about how sad it is that Jett has died before she reveals her cold, opportunistic, reptilian core:

    “…its got to be so hard in a way to have lost your son, but in another way he is free from the terrible things he has been in…”

    So if we follow her logic: it sucks that Jett is dead, but heck, at least he’s not a Scientologist anymore!

    http://anonymous-is-a-hategroup.blogspot.com/2009/01/tory-magoo-tramples-on-jett-travolta.html

    Tom Newton

  9. anonymous Says:

    “The Times says he apparently suffered a seizure. I thought that was clear when I posted the exact quote. ”

    Yes, Mark, but the poster in your comment section presented it as a fact and even went as far as claiming he had made his case and it was now for Scientology to disprove it.

    What’s the point of your comment justifying his absolute assertion with the relative one of the NYT that said he apparently suffered a seizure?

    Maybe you are the one who has a misunderstood here.

  10. Legseleven Says:

    Is that the same scilon trying to divert attention away from an inevitable logical conclusion that if Jett T died from a seizure he probably wasn’t taking the correct treatment for them. The responsibility for this would ultimately lie with the cult. There are enough historical examples in this evil organisation to justify immediate suspicion.

    This explains cult posters sounding like panic stricken headless chickens on the road to oblivion who have just missed the bus….whatever. Today is Monday -prepare for some flak.

  11. XENU TV Says:

    Really? is it my job to find your MU? “Apparently, you agree with him, because the New York times said so…”

  12. anonymous Says:

    I don’t understand why you made the post then. I challenged the absolute assertion of this guy, saying that since we don’t have the autopsy results yet, how can he be so sure about the cause of death, and I speculated that it must be his OT Powerz.

    Your response was a direct reference to my post, not a separate entry, since your wrote: “I’m not sure if reading the New York Times constitutes OT powers”

    Answering a statement challenging an absolute assertion with proof that a relative one has been made by the media does not make sense to me.

    That guy wrote:

    “But Jett Travolta died of a seizure, … it has yet to be disproved that what occured was a serious, if not criminal, example of parental neglect.

  13. XENU TV Says:

    Ah, but you attributed certainty to me while I explicitly posted that news sources have said apparent.

    Years of news reports indicate the boy was prone to seizures and news report of the death say it was an apparent seizure that led to the death. So to presuppose that seizures were NOT involved is an even greater leap of faith which you seem willing to take.

    I don’t know but have reported what sources have said was apparent.

    We reported a news story at my station a few days ago about an apparent murder/suicide. Does that mean it was? No, it means all indications are leading that way although the final ruling hadn’t been made by the authorities. Enough evidence was seen to suggest it was not a robber who killed two people in their home or some other explanation but the investigation was underway.

    Now, would you be jumping all up and down, frothing about this issue if Scientology wasn’t involved?

  14. Paul Fetch Says:

    Mark Bunker is a viscious, rumor-mongering loser.

  15. Paul Fetch Says:

    Some reports have questioned whether Jett received the proper medical care, due to possible restrictions on medications thanks to the family’s belief in Scientology, but a source close to the Travolta family denied that to Access on Sunday.

    “They structured their lives around taking care of their son,” the source told Access.

    “There certainly wasn’t anything about their religious beliefs that would have prevented them from seeking the best possible medical attention and care for Jett,” the source continued. “John and Kelly took no options off the table in terms of taking care of their son, medical or otherwise.”

  16. Paul Fetch Says:

    And Travolta’s corporate and commercial lawyer, Michael McDermott, told Radar on Sunday that Jett had, in fact, formerly used anti-seizure medication.

    “They gave him an anti-seizure medication Depakote for over a year,” he told the site. “It extended the seizures out to over 21 days. But ultimately the attacks got closer and closer, they had to give more and more medication, and it started to cause organ damage so they stopped.”

    McDermott believed Jett was no longer on the medication at the time of his death, though Jett had round-the-clock care and supervision from two nannies as well as other safety precautions.

  17. Paul Fetch Says:

    Mark Bunker is a viscious, rumor-mongering loser.

    Paul Fetch Says:

    January 5, 2009 at 8:57 am
    Some reports have questioned whether Jett received the proper medical care, due to possible restrictions on medications thanks to the family’s belief in Scientology, but a source close to the Travolta family denied that to Access on Sunday.

    “They structured their lives around taking care of their son,” the source told Access.

    “There certainly wasn’t anything about their religious beliefs that would have prevented them from seeking the best possible medical attention and care for Jett,” the source continued. “John and Kelly took no options off the table in terms of taking care of their son, medical or otherwise.”

    Paul Fetch Says:

    January 5, 2009 at 8:57 am
    And Travolta’s corporate and commercial lawyer, Michael McDermott, told Radar on Sunday that Jett had, in fact, formerly used anti-seizure medication.

    “They gave him an anti-seizure medication Depakote for over a year,” he told the site. “It extended the seizures out to over 21 days. But ultimately the attacks got closer and closer, they had to give more and more medication, and it started to cause organ damage so they stopped.”

    McDermott believed Jett was no longer on the medication at the time of his death, though Jett had round-the-clock care and supervision from two nannies as well as other safety precautions.

    Mark Bunker is a viscious, rumor-mongering loser.

    Paul Fetch Says:

    January 5, 2009 at 8:57 am
    Some reports have questioned whether Jett received the proper medical care, due to possible restrictions on medications thanks to the family’s belief in Scientology, but a source close to the Travolta family denied that to Access on Sunday.

    “They structured their lives around taking care of their son,” the source told Access.

    “There certainly wasn’t anything about their religious beliefs that would have prevented them from seeking the best possible medical attention and care for Jett,” the source continued. “John and Kelly took no options off the table in terms of taking care of their son, medical or otherwise.”

    Paul Fetch Says:

    January 5, 2009 at 8:57 am
    And Travolta’s corporate and commercial lawyer, Michael McDermott, told Radar on Sunday that Jett had, in fact, formerly used anti-seizure medication.

    “They gave him an anti-seizure medication Depakote for over a year,” he told the site. “It extended the seizures out to over 21 days. But ultimately the attacks got closer and closer, they had to give more and more medication, and it started to cause organ damage so they stopped.”

    McDermott believed Jett was no longer on the medication at the time of his death, though Jett had round-the-clock care and supervision from two nannies as well as other safety precautions.

  18. anonymous Says:

    Mark – I get the feeling that we are not speaking about the same thing. I was commenting on the guy who posted the first comment on your post (called “General Public”), not on you. You did post “apparent” in the follow up remark, that’s true, but I construed, since you referred to my remark about “OT Powerz”, that you were supporting that poster (General Public). Did I mis-construe that? Well, maybe. Or maybe there is something else here that makes we just do not understand each other.

    I don’t mean to say that it was you who used OT Powerz to assert things. I know it is not your style. You are usually temperate and cautious in your statement, and a truly wise man beard🙂 For any misunderstanding, I am sorry.

  19. XENU TV Says:

    You wrote:

    “But Jett Travolta died of a seizure”

    Wow – amazing OT powerz!!! Here we are all waiting that two prominent specialists perform an autopsy on Jett’s body Monday morning, but you…, you… you already know the cause of death!

    Congratulation!

    You are AMAZING! Anonymous is AMAAAAZING!

    —————–

    I said it doesn’t take OT powers to read a newspaper and see that apparently he suffered a seizure and struck his head. You seem to doubt the news reports but, as Mr. Fetch points out, the boy had a history of seizures so it seems a more than credible possibility.

    Your were rather smug about OT powers being needed to conclude that a seizure was likely at fault. No such powers were needed.

    However, it is a leap to say that the Travolta’s treatment of Jett was criminal. I don’t agree with that.

    I think there is a likelihood that Jett didn’t get proper treatment throughout his childhood based on his parent’s belief. I don’t know that for sure but that’s a possibility. Many people have thought they were unwilling to admit Jett had autism even though the seizures are consistent with autism and not at all a byproduct of Kawasaki disease. Do I know? Of course not. But is is an argument going on just as forcefully on the autism message boards right now.

    What ever the reason, it remains a very human tragedy with a grieving family who has my sympathies.

    When a Christian Scientist’s child dies because the parent’s religious beliefs stop them from seeking treatment, they grieve just as much as other parents do. It is an incredibly sad situation that people can turn away from science which might save a life and put their child’s fate in the hands of dogma.

    I believe John Travolta did every thing he knew how to help his child and gave him the most wonderful life possible. I don’t doubt that for a second, even though I have no more concrete evidence to go by than the same newspaper reports with which I draw mu conclusions about the death. I have no reason to believe Travolta is anything short of a loving father who must now be suffering terrible pain.

    I felt the same thing about the people watching over Lisa McPherson in her last 17 days. They did what they felt was right. They thought they were helping her. They were following Hubbard’s policies and ultimately Hubbard’s tech led to Lisa’s death.

    Will Hubbard’s tech share some responsibility for Jett’s death? I don’t know that. There is a possibility but I’m not in a position to make that judgment.

  20. XENU TV Says:

    Mr. Fetch.

    You are welcome to make your points. Even that I am “a viscious, rumor-mongering loser.”

    But please don’t spam.

    Thanks.

  21. anonymous Says:

    “You wrote:

    “But Jett Travolta died of a seizure”

    Wow – amazing OT powerz!!!”

    Yes, again I was referring to the comment by the guy going by the nick of “General Public”, not to you.

    Anyway…

    I think your position in this is thoughtful, unlike many I have read. While you raise question about the influence the scn tech may have had, which is fair taking into account your position and engagement, you do it humanly.

    I am not sure where that autism board is. I may want to search for one and check it out, to become a bit more enlightened on the subject.

    I am not doubting the news report saying seizure may be the cause, I was only commenting (to that guy, not to you) that it is too early to make a such a definite judgment in the matter. For all we know, he may as well have died from a heart attack, arising from complications of the supposed Kawasaki. And again, I was not smug about OT powers being needed to conclude that a seizure was likely at fault. I was smug about OT powers being needed to conclude that a seizure was absolutely at fault, like this commenter, not you, did.

    “However, it is a leap to say that the Travolta’s treatment of Jett was criminal. I don’t agree with that.”

    That’s nice. At the very least we should wait to have all the information, but I would agree with you here too. By all means, for it to be criminal, there would need to be intent as well as the action itself, which obviously there was not.

    “Many people have thought they were unwilling to admit Jett had autism even though the seizures are consistent with autism and not at all a byproduct of Kawasaki disease.”

    There are so many possible causes for seizure. Even admitting they would not be the outcome of the Kawasaki, why does it matter? The important thing to be treated were the seizure, whatever their origin. Of course it would be better if we could pin point the origin, but since that’s not that easy, the focus is on the seizures. Especially since even if they admitted he was autistic, there is no cure for it, there is no medicine for it, so what would it change? Some people say he would have had a better quality of life if they did, but I doubt anybody with whatever neurological disorder whatever the name could have had a better quality of life than Jett.

    “Will Hubbard’s tech share some responsibility for Jett’s death? I don’t know that. There is a possibility but I’m not in a position to make that judgment.”

    I think your position is a very sensible and sensitive one, all the while questioning the influence Hubbard’s tech may have had, which, as I said, is fair.

    Thanks for it.

  22. Anonymous4341 Says:

    I hope $cientology will not get away with it this time !
    Sometimes it takes a tragedy to shut down a cult.
    See on Youtube the great medical advices of Hubbard on seizure: “Scientology: Hubbard on EPILEPSY”.

  23. General Public Says:

    TRANSCRIPT OF HUBBARD LECTURE (on You Tube, entitled ‘Scientology Hubbard on Epilepsy.’ Thanks to 4341 for the reminder)
    Plainly exibited in these spoken words of Hubbard are his inaccurate and superficial understanding as well as his contempt for medical science. Particularly relevant regarding the death of Jett Travolta is the inevitable conflict occuring when medical treatment and scientology meet.

    “…..this doctor was simply giving her these tranqulisers, and it was this bromine, and they don’t give it to you as a drug. And then people who have epilepsy, which is a type of disease which gives them seizures, are almost always found on some minor drug that prevents them from getting …they call them these petit mal seizures -that’s epilepsy. I don’t care how they call it. Sometimes they really seize and sometimes they ……(?) If an epileptical took you by the hand they’re likely to break every bone in your hand, if he suddenly had a seizure.

    But the doctors keep them on something to prevent this -it’s just a tranquiliser and they keep them on that one year, year in and year out . And then you come along as an auditor, and you try to audit the PC and you tell the PC they’ll have to go off that drug. And the all of a sudden, why, something will happen from some place or another …the PC will tell the doctor they’ve been taken off the drug by the auditor, and the doctor will call up plaintivly asking you to “please put her back on the drug because she needs this” and you get into a collision between medical treatment and so on.

    Now I’m using medical words here or chemical words really – you don’t pay any attention to them because they’re mostly gobbledegook . There’s an awful lot of gobbledegook words. Gobbledegook just means nonsense chatter ….awful lot of them.”

  24. Sarita Says:

    Shocking what Scientology is allowed to do. At one time I thought Scientology only hurt poor followers, that those which Scientology had propelled into great fame were not hurt by Scientology. Guess I was wrong! And even tho they sacrifice these kids, these aged, grown up followers continue following the bs. Shocking. L. Ron Hubbard must be in F hell.

  25. Rascal Says:

    No, LRH is not in hell, the devil told him to f.off somewhere else. So the pervert is now roaming the universe looking for drugs.

  26. XUFOCULTIST Says:

    We love you Wise Beard Man!

  27. anonymous Says:

    Tory Christman claims that she was ordered off her seizure medication by the CoS but she forgets to say that such illegal orders were promptly overturned by higher CoS authorities, and that for the 30 years she was in Scientology she was allowed to take her medicine, as confirmed by her 2003 affidavit.

    In fact, contrary to what she is saying to the press today, trying to induce Scientology phobia in the wake of the Jett Travolta tragedy, her affidavit is the best proof there is that Scientology is not against seizure medicines where needed.

    Google “Tory Christman” affidavit 2003

  28. xenulives Says:

    crui$e could barely even talk today. he knows $cientology is screwed. can you imagine anyone joining now? i mean, not if you value your health and the health of your family. the medical community needs to start speaking the truth about the death of Jett Travolta. check out this article:

    http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1880

  29. anonymous Says:

    Mark – can you do something about/for your friend Magoo? I worry for her… She is spreading claims in the press that are in total contradiction with the affidavit she did in 2003 and she deletes posts from her youtube channel (and bans posters) who points to this contradiction. She does not seem to be rational at all, unless she always has been that way, I don’t know. Obviously, this is going to backfire badly for her and for the anti-Scientology cause on the long run.

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