Meet the Untouchables

Scientology Cult

I don’t know how long this site has been online but I just stumbled upon it.  It’s a new new site from loyal Scientologists who are spilling the beans on current diminutive leader David Miscavige.

We are a think tank of loyal Scientologists formed around the recognition that Scientology’s problems trace directly to the hidden corruption and criminality of David Miscavige, the self-appointed dictator who subverted Scientology.

Our purpose is to provide transparency to all sides and thereby bring Scientology out of its own Dark Age and into present time where it belongs.

Non-violent, non-corporate and non-commercial, our only pledge is to observe and state what we have observed, do what we can to help and support those abused by Miscavige and bring about a reformation of the subject to its real purpose — giving people greater freedom in their lives.

I can support that.  I’ve just started reading it but among the points they make is the out-tech way Miscavige uses huge events and the fraud of the big ad campaigns that these events unveil.

The money, tens of millions of dollars every year, is funneled into the Church where a fat chunk goes to Miscavige every week. With it he buys $500 shirts, cars, motorcycles, suits, homes, buildings, cameras, flat-screen TVs, swimming pools, spy equipment, guns, home theaters… whatever he wants. He builds himself houses, offices, takes vacations, goes to the races and hangs with his millionaire friends like Tom Cruise.

Here’s where the real Ponzi fakery comes in. The “dissemination campaigns” are launched but the TV ads that were shown to the Scientologists play for only a few weeks in spot markets instead of throughout the year as implied in the event. After all, every campaign is hyped up as “our biggest campaign ever!” In this way, the “dissemination programs” announced by Miscavige appear to be happening and Scientology seems to be really moving somewhere! Woo-hoo.

But in reality, the car never left the driveway. All Miscavige did was start the engine, rev it up a couple of times and shut it down. In this way, one tank of gas is made to last indefinitely. But Scientologists mistakenly continue to invest money all year long into “the expansion of Scientology” and “IAS Programs” which are all a big fat lie.

Spending a pittance to get a few ads made by slave labor, that’s cheap. Putting a smattering of ads on TV or radio for a few days or weeks, that’s cheap. Miscavige simply keeps all the cash. There is NO accountability for the funds. Not to the IRS because it’s a “church,” not to the SEC, not to anyone.

So as the St. Pete Times articles were printed a few weeks ago, people spotted Scientology ads EVERYWHERE.   Are they still running?  I haven’t heard a peep lately?  Could it be that all that parishioner’s  money was spent just to rehab David Miscavige’s tarnished reputation?

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32 Comments on “Meet the Untouchables”

  1. Shimmy Shapiro Says:

    It’s nice to see tha Scientology is imploding. But, you know, Miscavige has a tough job. How could any leader deal with the pack of lies L.Ron Hubbard dropped on his followers. It really wouldn’t matter who was steering the ship.

  2. dr.fang Says:

    Interesting bit: Scientology is making its money not by delivering courses or having successful local orgs, but by fundraising. Hadn’t realized that before.

    Now-how to throw a monkey wrench into fundraising by a bunch of liars amongst their perpetually blind and gullible parishioners?

    Hmmm…

  3. Avery1 Says:

    I feel a special sort of pity for these “Loyal Scientologists.” It’s sad that they can see what a fraud Miscavige is, but can’t make it the extra step to realize the whole enterprise was a fraud concocted by Hubbard.

    I hope they fully wake up. Otherwise there will just be a new group of leaders delivering the ridiculous brainwashing tech to unsuspecting people.

  4. Cornelius Says:

    “We are a think tank of loyal Scientologists formed around the recognition that Scientology’s problems trace directly to the hidden corruption and criminality of David Miscavige, the self-appointed dictator who subverted Scientology.”

    Funny, but sad. Their think tank has a major leak, if they think most of Scientology’s problems trace directly to Miscavige. They are deluded by brainwashing, and their inability to understand that “clear” and “superpowerz” etc. do not exist. Of course, their approach could help in the effort to reform or collapse the worst abuses in Scientology. Some of these people are acutely and personally aware of the abuses in the system.

    I’d read their statement more like this:

    “We are a group of deluded Scientologists who were thrown out by Miscavige, clinging to our knowingness of Hubbard claptrap, because reading objective history of the cult, facing the fact that the cult operated BASICALLY the same way under Hubbard, would be too much for our egos and psyches to bear. We are still homo novis! How could we have spent all that money or the best years of our lives chasing a shadow, upholding a system that was created to scam people out of money, only to be thrown out by a tyrant who knew how to scam a little better, David Miscavige.”

    Seriously, this group is bitter and disillusioned, that outside the money-scamming cult, their skills, talents, and Hubbard “knowledge” all amount to a pile of dog poop, although it might be good for selling cars or furniture or whatever, which is what most of them seem to be doing.

    This does not overlook the fact, that since Scientology trains people to believe all this Hubbard crap, accept it without questioning or scientific proof of any kind, that to Scientologists now in the cult, it could be a major window out, especially to those who have:

    1. Been personally abused, or held back by Miscavige, or know someone who has.
    2. Been hit on for donations one too many times and wonder where the money is going.

    Scientologists like Rathbun and Rinder who lied, and slapped others around, were puppets more of Scientology the system, than they were of David Miscavige the tyrant.

  5. Pareidolius Says:

    Great post Cornelius, I think you rephrased it perfectly. The rose colored lenses that these folks see Hubbard through are kind of sad. Their depiction of well, us, is kind of extreme:

    “The extreme, rebellious far left of the Scientology spectrum is occupied by those who would not be satisfied until every last word of Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard was forever destroyed. The anti-Scientology extreme cut its teeth on the purpose line of restoring freedom of speech and thought on the subject. Ironically, that very group is now demanding that everything L Ron Hubbard ever issued be burned in one colossal Spanish Inquisition-esque bonfire.”

    I think Hubbard’s “tech” is a masterpiece of unintended hilarity, but I would approach a reformed Scientology no differently than I approach the Mormon Church or the Catholics. Sure, I might argue doctine vs. reality with a willing believer, but I would also gladly fight for their right to believe what they want in the end AS LONG AS IT HARMS NO PERSON.
    A few shit disturbers aside, Anonymous has always fought FOR Scientologists, not against them.

  6. BT Says:

    I just stumbled across another relatively new web site of a similar character, called “Leaving Scientology,” which seems to be authored by “Rebel.” http://leavingscientology.wordpress.com/

  7. SP Batman Says:

    I guess ultimately I don’t know how to feel about this. I’m glad there are people inside Scilo who are aware of Mr. Miscavage’s atrocities, but in the end, people running from David’s scams to L.Ron’s doesn’t seem like a huge win.

    You would think that if David did get the boot, people inside would find L.Ron’s methods to be just as condemning and ludicrous. What happens then?

  8. 3rdman Says:

    L Ron’s writings are followed religiously. Its unfortunate that there are people who believe his stuff without a doubt good, while blaming all their troubles on one man: DM. L Ron’s tech is what got them into the mess in the first place, DM just knows how to exploit people with it as L Ron did. He didn’t learn from Ron’s mistakes of criminal conduct, except for trying to do a better job at not getting caught.

    Besides, it isn’t just DM they should blame. There are a lot of people in Scientology (and out) that have much to answer for. DM is indeed the top jackass calling the shots, but he has a lot of people obeying his orders, even if it means violating the law.

    If DM goes, he’ll just be replaced, most likely with somebody far worse. It happened after L Ron bit the dust, it will happen again. Scientology would have to be hit hard for it to be permanently unable to hurt people or to finally get the message that religion does not make one above the laws of man.

    This would mean DM, administrators, staff, of Scientology and its front groups, as well as Moxon, the OSA, and corrupt ass-kissers such as officials of Clearwater and Riverside would have to be prosecuted.

  9. Ironhead Says:

    a step in the right direction. seeing that little worm go down by the hands of his own followers would be poetic. even though there are Scilons that feel this way, I still feel wary of the lRH virus.

  10. Relyt Says:

    Honestly, if the Scientology Organization was dismantled and all that was left was a bunch of disorganized Freezoners, I would no longer be concerned.

  11. Jon Vederman Says:

    I disagree Relyt. Scientology is a scam, and freezoners practicing scientology are practicing a scam. Not good.

  12. joe Says:

    These preceding comments are extremely insightful… It is warming to see fissures open but on the same token the fault (pun? no) runs to all the way back to the beginning. The lies started with hubbard. This was way before miscavaige the “dwarven one” came along.

  13. Relyt Says:

    Jon: Many can argue the same thing about Mormonism, but over the years it has been able to expand and branch off into legitimate non-abusive practices. Of course there’s still the hardcore cultists that occasionally get in trouble for assisted rape or unsafe living conditions, but many of them are no longer associated with the fundamental church.

    I think what’s more important is that organization leads to corruption, which then leads to abuse. Yes, Scientology was started as a scam and continues to be a scam, but disorganized Scientology is practically harmless from what I’ve seen.

  14. Jon Vederman Says:

    Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, I CAN same the same thing about Mormonism. Mormonism has been proven to be 100% a fraud.

    One of it’s fundamental tenets, that the First Peoples are of Jewish decent, is completely false. That being the case, the whole story falls apart and Mormonism is exposed for what it was, a hoax, a lie, a con, etc. Any fanatical Mormon, at least by Mormon definitions, like the freezoners are practicing a scam.

  15. dr.fang Says:

    But Jon, people still have the right to believe in whatever they want to, even if it’s grade-A Bullshit.

    That’s not a scam; a scam is only committed when money changed hands because of trickery.

    Since DM is raising funds with the intention of keeping the money for himself, rather than spending it on the advertised intention, *that’s* a scam. When people are sold courses with the understanding that they’ll get super powers-that’s a scam.

    Now, the argument can certainly be made that Mormonism and the belief in BTs or the Reactive Mind is an actual hoax or a lie-that I’ll agree with.

    Since both Joseph Smith and LRH were demonstrably con men prior to becoming “prophets”, it’s reasonable to assume that they *knew* that they were spouting Bullshit. And since they were profiting from their own lie, they were committing a scam/con.

    However for subsequent people to *genuinely believe* such bullshit, well, that’s their 1st Amendment freedom. :-/

    And it’s our 1st Amendment freedom to show them that they’re being lied to.

  16. Jon Vedermen Says:

    The difference between the freezone and the church proper is one is disseminated, the other is central. That difference means that if the freezone gains traction, it will be a hundred, no a million, no, that’s not high enough, no, it would be magnitudes worse than the church ever got.

    Can you imagine trying to fight the all the wrongs the “tech” creates from a group like anonymous instead of a single cult like scientology?

    Nightmare beyond nightmare…

    Some of the freezone charges, others accept donations, FEW do it for altruistic reasons. For the most part, the hope to bring back the wealth making auditing is on many freezoner’s mind. And they’re there to pick right up after ex-scilons leave the cult trying to get on with their lives.

    But as I already alluded to, this isn’t really about fraud as it is about how badly it can damage people, which happens to be quite significant. Talk to or read some recently high level defections and some of them are startling batshitinsane.

    You can believe what you want, and I agree with that, but when one can’t cope with reality any better than a schizo, then there’s something wrong.

    The “tech” is a tool for furthering the scam. Disorganized freezoners using this tool is, as I said, magnitudes worse than the cult if they gain traction.

  17. Eric Says:

    No matter who these people allow to dictate them, and no matter what crock brained failure of a science fiction writer they worship, scientology is a joke which is being taken seriously by people who don’t have the non-sheep like qualities to think for themselves. I see now they are advertising on television, OMG and during Bill O’Reilly! Shouldn’t this be illegal? I mean, what if we had a commercial for every stupid cult that comes along? Wouldn’t the networks feel stupid for allowing ads from the Waco cult? How about the other recent one that keeps kids from school, yeah lets recruit more people there too.

  18. Sister 727 Says:

    Avery 1 said

    “I feel a special sort of pity for these “Loyal Scientologists.” It’s sad that they can see what a fraud Miscavige is, but can’t make it the extra step to realize the whole enterprise was a fraud concocted by Hubbard.

    I hope they fully wake up. Otherwise there will just be a new group of leaders delivering the ridiculous brainwashing tech to unsuspecting people.”

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. I went to this DM-bashing site (which I don’t discourage in anyway” but while I was looking around I’m thinking how can these people blame it all on just DM?? Do they honestly believe LRH wasn’t a close second or even worse than DM?? They’ve obviously read all the critic’s views on DM so they must be reading the critic’s views on LRH.

    My conclusion is that they know this cult is “f’d” up and they are using DM as a scapegoat. Do they just ignore what they read about Operation Freak Out and all the other “operations” Hubbard invented? What about the RPF?? DM didn’t invent that!!!!

    I had to vent hear because I know it will do no good to bring up these issues on their site.

    Oh well, maybe we should look at it as baby steps. When DM is out and the new guy gets just as corrupt by following the same Hubbard policies maybe more will start to realize there is more to the destructive nature of scientology than David Miscavich.

    We can only hope.

  19. Amuyonons Says:

    Problems with the Co$ are systemic. Looks to me like miscavage is a distraction/sacrifice to divert attention from Co$s inherant flaws; corrupt, dangerous and successful system of generating $
    peace

  20. Shimmy Shapiro Says:

    A friend made an observation that I am inclined to agree with– he called it “post-cult syndrome”. The idea is that after someone walks away disillusioned from an all consuming endeavor, he or she needs another all consuming endeavor to substitute for it. I have seen this occur over and over with Scientologists leaving the fold. The Freezone may serve mostly as methadone for the Scientology heroin.

    Is there a freezone organization big enough to rent or buy a central building, like the Scientologists do? I have no answer for that but I suspect that it is practiced mostly in people’s living rooms. I also know that there are about a dozen significant schizms of the Mormon church. Scientology could be like that in a hundred years.

    Anyway, when the Freezoners tell people that they can make them clear I will continue to tell those same people that there are no clears. When the Freezoners therapies run into hundreds of thousands of dollars I will tell adherents that they are being taken.

    By the way, if you haven’t read about Sylvia Browne, do so. You will read about a woman who is doing horrific damage and without the help of L.Ron Hubbard. There is a conman named Kevin Trudeau who will tell you how to fix up almost any problem in your life. He has been to jail once and I wish the US government would find a way to throw him back in there. Really, there are no end of these people who want to trade your money for their nonsense.

    I spend much of my time with the Scientologists but I think of them as part of a continuum that stretches from the lady up the street who does cold readings to the reigning heavy weight champion, David Miscavige.

    There is some an saying about democracy and vigilance but I don’t remember it.

    I might add that the two Mormons I know are very decent people who I don’t think could ever harm anyone in spite of their wacky beliefs. Most people are spiritual is some way. I don’t think the Mormon church is doing much harm, no more than the larger sects. The Mormons don’t seem to fit the characteristics of a cult. I have an open mind on the subject but after years of knowing Mormons and talking to them about it, I find nothing really bad to say about the group as it currently operates.

  21. dr.fang Says:

    “The difference between the freezone and the church proper is one is disseminated, the other is central.”

    Well, there’s no OSA in the Freezone-no full time Staff, no SO, no IAS, no Flag, no SuperPower, no Ideal Orgs, no CCHR, no Narconon, no WISE, no Stress Tests, etc..

    In other words, the potential for people to be financially or personally ruined is much, much less in the Freezone, because it’s all part-time. Nor are there any buildings to raise millions of $ for.

    And if one group charges more for their services, well, the free market will allow another wackjob to swoop in and under cut the competition.

    Also, since the Freezone is almost entirely made up by ex-Scn, the potential to entrap *new* people through national ad campaigns, etc. is much less.

    “Can you imagine trying to fight the all the wrongs the “tech” creates from a group like anonymous instead of a single cult like scientology?”

    I don’t disagree with your assessment of the harm the “tech” can potentially cause, but the majority of the abuse of Scientology stems from people being tricked into giving up their life savings or their working lives to the cult. If it’s a hobby rather than a vocation, it’s more of an unfortunate quirk rather than an abusive situation.

    Also, if one is in the Freezone that implies that you must have a “day job” that puts you in touch with us Wogs. It’s a lot harder to get crazy when you’re in touch with reality on a day-to-day basis.

    “But as I already alluded to, this isn’t really about fraud as it is about how badly it can damage people, which happens to be quite significant. Talk to or read some recently high level defections and some of them are startling batshitinsane.”

    Yes, but does that stem from believing in BTs or from the insanity that comes from being in an abusive group that controls your life 24/7? :-/

    “You can believe what you want, and I agree with that, but when one can’t cope with reality any better than a schizo, then there’s something wrong.”

    I think we both agree that following the “tech” is a poor substitute for sound judgment and critical thinking. And I think that anyone would agree that believing that invisible, parasitic souls were attached to you and were responsible for all your ills does not encourage sanity.

    But there’s a dark element that must be in place for it to do it’s most harm:

    LRH was insidious: he defined “reality” as an agreed-upon take on the world. In other words, reality is not based on what actually happens, it’s what you and others *believe* is actually real. So, in Scn (or any other cult), you isolate people from the rest of the world so that you can control what is “real”. That’s the power of a cult: they encourage sane people to believe crazy things and then compound it by isolating them from the rest of the world who might change their mind as to what is actually “reality”.

    By breaking up the cult, you break the hold it has on people by denying their ability to isolate people.

    “The “tech” is a tool for furthering the scam. Disorganized freezoners using this tool is, as I said, magnitudes worse than the cult if they gain traction.”

    If the Church breaks up, that’s going to be a HUGE indicator that Scientology has lost all traction. The only reason it is able to expand is that it has the financial resources to do so, and the respectability that money lends it. No Cult, no big $.

    I think I see your point about trying to fight multiple groups, but I’d rather swat a bunch of gnats than hunt a rampaging elephant. We will never rid the world of gnats, but we can sure as Hell make elephants extinct. >:-)

  22. dr.fang Says:

    Sister 727 said:
    “I couldn’t have said it better myself. I went to this DM-bashing site (which I don’t discourage in anyway” but while I was looking around I’m thinking how can these people blame it all on just DM?? Do they honestly believe LRH wasn’t a close second or even worse than DM?? They’ve obviously read all the critic’s views on DM so they must be reading the critic’s views on LRH.

    “My conclusion is that they know this cult is “f’d” up and they are using DM as a scapegoat. Do they just ignore what they read about Operation Freak Out and all the other “operations” Hubbard invented? What about the RPF?? DM didn’t invent that!!!!”

    Of course you’re spot-on. They either have a sanitized view of what LRH actualy wrote (which is what Christianity does in regards to some of the books of the Bible such as Leviticus), or they are cynical bastards looking to control the millions of dollars that the CoS possesses.

    I’d be happy if it were the former and they just *ignored* the bad stuff LRH wrote.

    But, I’m leaning toward the latter, as one could not get to the top of the ladder without seeing the master pull the strings of the puppets. :-(

    However, DM did bring about a lot of new fraud by his own hand. LRH tried to defraud people by selling them services. DM is trying to defraud people by selling them buildings and ad campaigns.

  23. Jon Vederman Says:

    “I think I see your point about trying to fight multiple groups, but I’d rather swat a bunch of gnats than hunt a rampaging elephant. We will never rid the world of gnats, but we can sure as Hell make elephants extinct. >:-)”

    ^^^^
    This is why I think the freezone is so much more dangerous.

  24. Artoo45 Says:

    The Mormons don’t seem to fit the characteristics of a cult. I have an open mind on the subject but after years of knowing Mormons and talking to them about it, I find nothing really bad to say about the group as it currently operates.

    Proposition 8

    And while we’re at it, I suggest all Anonymous members read “Bad Moon Rising” about Sun Myung Moon, who’s damaging ifluence worldwide far exceeds the wildest dreams of Elron.

  25. General Public AYS Says:

    “Scientology was a movement of free thinkers started by the greatest free thinker of them all.”

    This unbelievable stupidity was written by someone calling himself Thomas Paine on the scientology-cult site.

    I agree with Jon Vederman above: the freezone will be more insiduous and difficult to combat. I’d prefer an ‘elephant’ I can see rather than the gnats which fly through the tiniest of gaps.

  26. Cornelius Says:

    What a fascinating thread. Haven’t read it since I posted.

    I never considered the possibility that Scientology could be more insidious in the free zone. Too many of their beliefs and rules institutionalize paranoia, and then provide a control structure to reinforce it, and outside of the institution, I assume it would lose nearly all of its power to expand and recruit, or even appeal to anyone.

    In the group, where you have people declaring their “wins,” and not being able to advance or having to pay more if they don’t declare wins, that whole dynamic and group generated mystique would fade in the free zone.

    I think people would be asking themselves, “is this really working?” People would be more likely to try it for a few weeks or months, rather than be pressured to follow the carrot on the stick, to be part of a group.

    There’s also the legal and business machine which would be much weaker. No newbies being impressed with the buildings, all the books, slick propaganda and the glossy materials, the ship, or the esprit-de-corpse (zombie power!) or the uniforms. (ha)

    No mandate to penetrate governments for the purpose of world domination with one “science” under Hubbard.

    Mormonism survived because it is based mostly on Christianity, which has had some staying power, due to some more positive principles, such as love. What did Joe Smith, huckster, add to Christianity, just some stuff here and there, just enough to make ‘em feel “special.”

    Too much of it designed to hook, instead of help. So, as a therapy in the free zone, it would fade away.

  27. Pareidolius Says:

    I’ve now had a bit of correspondence with Thoughtful” on the scientology-cult site. We had some very civilized back and forth about the fallibility of Hubbard, but there seem to be blinders on when it comes to LRH and the institutional abuses of the cult. All blame for the cult’s behavior rests sqarely with the evil Miscavige and in Thoughtful’s eyes, Ron’s intentions were always benign.

    Once again Cornelius, I agree that whether it’s delivered by the church or the freezone, the “tech” is designed with hooks in it at each step of the bridge. Induction, hypnosis, sleep-deprivation and other mind-control techniques were built in right from the start.

    Both Thoughtful and Marty Rathbun have sites now and they both suggest reading the Biography of Fredrick Douglass. An excellent concept, comparing Douglass’ treatise on the methods and structure of institutionalized slavery and the mind-control methods of the cult. Too bad they just can’t see Hubbard’s hand on the whip.

  28. dr.fang Says:

    General Public said:
    “I agree with Jon Vederman above: the freezone will be more insiduous and difficult to combat. I’d prefer an ‘elephant’ I can see rather than the gnats which fly through the tiniest of gaps.”

    Well, the gnats are there, and we can’t get rid of them. But, we can kill the elephant. And, the elephant is the one doing the most damage.

    I guess that I don’t see the Freezoners as a problem, as I believe that 1) they won’t be as damaging to society and 2) they won’t have as maany parishioners as the CoS has today.

    All of this is a moot point, as despite the talk of an “end game” by some, there is still the matter of the IAS. The IAS was designed specifically in the event that the CoS got legally squashed by one government. It’s an international corporation with a HUGE war chest that could, tomorrow, regroup in Bulgravia and start over if needed.

    The absolute BEST defense against Scientology is to inform the public as to what they are up to abudantly and loudly. Make publicly known their secret materials, and prosecute whenever they break the law. The reason that the CoS has been advertising to young people is that the older people are more or less informed already. There’s no “fresh meat” left in the Boomer generation.

    Fortunatlely, the younger generation is internet savvy. Keep posting and keep getting the word out.

  29. Anonybob Says:

    What Avery1 said.

    I guess this is a good step for these people, but if they do manage to truly get back to what Scientology is they will – of course – still be stuck in a cult ponzi scheme. That is what Hubbard designed it to be from the very start.

    ‘Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be start his own religion.’

    As quoted in the Los Angeles Times (27 August 1978)

  30. Cornelius Says:

    Whether in the freezone, or the regular cult, including its hydra-head of front and business groups, people will be increasingly interested in the bigger picture, being better informed, about what they are spending their money on, and what lies ahead — Xenu — in their involvement with anything with Hubbard’s name on it.

    I agree that it was designed as a ponzi scheme, not a way to heal or help people, and in the freezone, yup, still a ponzi scheme.

    As Robert Kaufman (ex-Scientologist) wrote, they replace a person’s goals (healing, happiness, greater success in life), with Scientology’s goals (money extraction). It is all about making a person increasingly dependent on Scientology.

    In the process, it makes a person deluded. For example, believe they only ones who can help at an accident.

    How can Scientology counteract such lunacy?

    Can they make a propaganda video showing how Scientologists help at any car accidents, let alone serious ones?

    Can they produce a movie, that shows the ideal world Tom Cruise envisions, with no critics, no SPs, all Scientologists, being controlled with Hubbard tech?

    Has Tom Cruise even read 1984? He has his head buried in so much Scientology ca-ca, and action picture film scripts, he probably doesn’t read anything thought provoking. He’s so juiced up on his own Scilon-crack ideas. Ditto for Marty-Mark and Mike Rinder.

    Scientology is going to keep crapping on itself, and the relatively new videos on the internet are going to point this out in its manifest horror and hilarity.

  31. Aussie Diva Says:

    Actually,I think there’s a lot of good to be had in this outrage by loyal Scientologists. Until now,most of the criticisms of DM & the CO$ came from ex-members or critics who had never been in. Much easier to blow off as ‘entheta’ info from people who no longer identify with your group or were never ‘in’ in the first place.
    But these folks AREN’T criticizing the ‘Tech’ or Hubbard or Scientology. They’re criticizing a person,and the whole corrupt system he’s set up to connect himself to the gravy train.If these folks have a credible rep in the cult,other Scilons may just listen to them,not blow them off as hostile SPs.
    And if many Scientologists allow themselves to ponder these criticisms,once ONE edge of doubt is allowed to creep in,how long before the rest of the scam is seen to be an Emperor with No Clothes?


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