SF Protest

Big wins in San Francisco as Anonymous counter-protests the Scientologists protesting evil psychs.

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15 Comments on “SF Protest”

  1. Rabditreeweasel Says:

    Silly Sci’s, haven’t they heard? The CCHR isn’t run by the church, so why go to the protest? They’re gonna need to get that cleared up after being that close to so many suppressives.

  2. suck on it newton lovers Says:

    I know the Tom Newton’s of the world will be saying that the cult clearly won this battle (battle, not the war) and on the face of things he may not be entirely incorrect. In terms of people present they did outnumber us 10 to 1. But before the cult can claim victory on this one let me point out a few important details. First off they fell well short of the 2000 expected guests. As for the few hundred in attendance they were a mixed bunch to say the least. Such as for every enthusiastic protester waving a sigh and chanting anti-psych rhetoric their were four others (age varying from stroller to adult) who seemed at the very least to be in an other world. Most who walked with the group showed little real determination to get their point across. Kind of like a “the body is here but the mind is elsewhere kind of thing” Some slowly walked about gripping a sign in their hands barely mumbling what the $cientology handlers ask them to chant. I’m not saying there weren’t some who where happy and eager to protest however it seems like they only showed interest in psychiatry. NOT IN THE CULT. Most I talked to said they knew nothing about the cult or that CCHR is affiliated with $cientology. Some were cool with answering questions about their views and some just went right on stone faced. This one usually how I told the cultist from the average mom their who has a ax to grind over some possible problem with psychiatrist. Some will argue this is proof that the cult is not doing as bad as we thought. Some will say that they are faring almost well or at least it is business as usual. But I say that if all these people where their to support the cult and support anti-psych at the same time then why don’t we ever get large numbers of counter protest during our monthlies. Further more some who were cool with talking and answering questions told stories of people coached about “certain possible counter protesters” and “troublemakers in the crowd” One women talking to me said she was approached by and organizer and said to not talk to the media until the end when the handlers were all present and ready for a “approved message”. Also notice that the members were charged for their t-shirts you saw them wearing. One women said they were mandatory to wear to “separate you form the others who might try to disrupt the event” apparently before hand we were ratted out by the $cientologist to the majority of the people who showed up. Some cultist will say that the large numbers of people their were all affiliated with the church and all were members but most I saw had nothing good or bad to say about the church. Most seemed indifferent. Either way the propaganda battle that will be fought in the coming weeks will not be good. They can and will spin in that we did not make a substantial impact. That the flyers and chants and counter protest of only 35 people was not a good showing. I say that even one cultist who got a flyer and sowed the seeds of discontentment then it was worth it. Finally I would like to say that in my opinion after watching this all unfold (without a mask) that is how I got 6 people to talk (no camera or dox obviously) on purpose because they were coached not to talk to cameras. Also some psych had some choice words for the cultist. Including that this was one big $cientology recruiting event. And one anon said at the planning meeting before hand the cultist told their hired handlers who are familiar with drugs and doctors and who had all the info to push the fact that this is all because of the hard work of CCHR and that donations should continue this is the courageous work of CCHR and to push people with critical questions to “go to the website” that was it. I’ll be posting what video I do have later. All in all the damage report is this. They had more than us and made more noise and more impact. Most were not pro $cientology. Although most had nothing negative to say about the church and the link between CCHR and the church they most definitely had nothing positive to say. Only one of out four protesting seemed interested in it. Only chanting when a handler came by or one of us with a camera. The rest were young kids who showed up with parents or other who came with friends or were marching because of the right time and right place factor. The church probably spent 70 grand on the total event from material, permits, shirts, sticker, flyers, banner, the event afterward (in which they tried every trick in the book for recruitment and donations) and other expenses. What they got back in return from unwitting guests? Who knows. But on the propaganda win we will be seeing a few news pieces with maybe a counter protest credit from us but either way the fact they did protest in numbers people will have to mention the link between CCHR and the cult and when people here the cult its always “the controversial church” blah blah blah and that makes them look out of the ordinary and not something for the general public.

    P.S Why don’t they have those numbers when they have events that are “directly” reported as $cientology events? They don’t. They are forced to hide the name $cientology. This is proof positive that the cult is no good and realize their hated and laughed at. They cant mention $cientology to the general public because if they do 99% of them will either laugh or run. 300 million people in the US and the cult has 50 thousand members? Wow they are doing great. They are on their way to 8 million.

  3. xenutv says Says:

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    Why hasn’t Tom Newton finished “shredding anonymous” and brought about our destruction….? Oh wait that’s right Tom just needs to quote ED a little more and then everyone will believe him. Well before Tom starts lurking let me ask a rhetorical question to him: can he provide “evidence” about any so called crime committed by anonymous if he cant use ED as a source. Can he quote any “proof” without having to twist the story and add in a URL for some ED page that has nothing to do with peaceful protesting of the cult of $cientology. Oh who am I kidding TomBot won’t die unless ED goes offline and Toms infinite source of everything anonymous goes away and he can’t provide “absolute hard evidence” any more (hahahah evidence, lol) Like how every member of anonymous and you too Tom for going their yourself to jack off to pink bears and those others who only visit ED and all of which are obvious pedophiles right. Blah blah blah I can’t believe he thinks he can win against a whole army of people who all universally don’t know or even care about each other but who all share a common bond….. they have had very negative experiences with the cult of $cientology. And the best thing is the blown members bring new information with them everytime they leave the cult and we use that to wage our war which is practically at its middle. I know anonymous has YEARS of fighting still to do but let me ask you this… the cult or anonymous? Who can outlast who? We need very little money and resources to practically shut down the church and restrict any new members and hurt its public image all with almost no money or resources and very little supplies and yet on the other hand they spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year on all sorts of fail shit and its gets them nothing but big fancy empty building and when they harass newcomers those being harassed get embolden and they now feel like it is personal and they feel the fight against the cult is a just fight and deserves ALOT of the individuals time and money and effort. The cult is after all the cults worst enemy. By attacking everyone they create new anti-$cientology supporters everyday, not just anonymous but everyday normal people who got mixed up in fair game by asking a simple question to a scilon like “What is your religion about? Is it really about aliens and lots of forced donations?” and then boom they are followed and harassed and fair gamed and then right their $cientology has a new life long enemy who would have probably forgot it if the cult didn’t push the person into taking a real stance against them. And new ideal orgs filled with nothing but empty air is not gonna go well when you got bills and lawyer fees and court cost and PR boners left and right cuz I for one will never give up. I know the hard core anons who will never and I mean never stop fighting the cult. And now we can do more with less. I mean after all in the beginning with almost 12 thousand members shit wasn’t popping in the news all that much but now as were down to a few thousand world wide the TV and Internet are alive with anti-$cientology stories. We may not be able to make your current brainwashed members quit but I can say with absolute assurance that you will not be getting any new members and eventually you will bleed them dry and they will physically have no more money and you will be forced to sell scilon properties and maybe even the rights to some LRH copyrights. Oh fuck it I’m tired of telling the world were winning and $cientology has been losing for at least the early 90’s when stat drops were at their worst then a slight rebound in the early 2000’s with the help of celebs but even now ask yourself this: When was the last time a real, for real type, celeb publicly praise scilon and said they support it as a whole other than Will Smith or other cultist that been indoctrinated. When did you see Juliet Lewis or fat ass Kirstie or Giovanni Ribisi or that blond dyke at a CCHR function. FUCK YOU $CAMOLOGY. anonymous legally can’t fail.

  4. 3rdMan Says:

    Love the Tunak Tunak at the end! Epic win for SF Anons.

  5. Johnny B Says:

    Excellent and encouraging vid Mark, thanks for posting.

    So what’s with the spam books on the last few posts? Judging by the “fail” spam on this page I’m leaning towards Tom-on-the-downswing-of-another-bipolar-episode. But then again, it could be the bad side of Anonymous. Interesting this is.


  6. Awesome! I thoroghly enjoyed every bit of that.

  7. Dan Says:

    Um, that was a lot of Scientologists? Some eye candy too.

    I thought the Co$ was almost dead. What am I missing?

  8. 3rdMan Says:

    To Dan:
    They’re still around 25 thousand in this country and shrinking. Also, this the annual American Psychiatry Association meeting. Thus, expect many CCHR charlatans and wackos of L. Con Hubbard’s b.s. showing up to spread lies and ruin legitimate psychiatry criticism.

  9. 46 thousand culties left in the world (not 25k by the way ^) - we got work to do anonymous Says:

    if the scilons have so many members still why don’t we ever see this amount of people in the orgs? the fact that it was a scilon event was HIDDEN from the general public. they hide their affiliation with the cult for obvious reasons. just cuz they had a few hundred doesn’t mean all those peeps support the cult it just means they don’t like psychs. for everyone their that was supportive of the cult their were five more that don’t donate or take classes or even support scientology. when i asked them when they were their if they also support scilon… most said what is scientology? or im here cuz i don’t like my kids taking pure amphetamines before going to school and i feel indifferent to the group who sponsored it.

  10. KILL THE CULT Says:

    What does legal protesting in front of the cult of $cientology buildings have to do with ED? Tom has been asked a million times to provide proof of any arrest or conviction for bomb threats or death threats or pedophilia activity and all he can do is say “Go to ED” Can you provide any proof other that one image on ED. Tom, what it if ED went offline today. What would you do? No one but anonymous visit this blog so it doesn’t matter anyway but without ED your already pointless words reach even less in their meaning. Let me guess your response… how about a link for Gunzel getting arrested. Although I guess you have a different computer than mine cuz I didn’t see any thing about death or bomb threats or pedophilia or anything you accuse anonymous with. Just one individual forced to say anonymous made me do this to save his ass about one DDOS attack. Nothing about your allegations. In fact as recently as DEC 08 the police and FBI confirmed (during the research before the Baca fiasco for your cult)that no arrest or investigation is taking place or will take place for the “bomb, death threats, powder you guys sent yourselves or any illegal sexual activity” You fail on so many levels. Tom think about it. People who are still unsure about anonymous get pushed to our side when you can’t prove them you are right. You just make the cult look bad. Someone comes here and sees what your argument is and thinks all scilons are losers in denial cultist with no perception of reality. Prove me and thousands other wrong by simply getting public records to back up your claims and post them on the site.

    SHOW ME PROOF OF ANY ARREST FOR DEATH OR BOMB THREATS OR TERRORIST ACTIVITY OR PEDOPHILIA. NOT SOME PICTURE ON A CHAN BOARD OR ED. SHOW ME AN ARREST RECORD. ACCORDING TO YOU ALL TEN THOUSAND ANONYMOUS MEMBERS ARE ALL PEDO’S… WHERE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC ARREST AND PROSECUTION RECORDS. THEY ARE FREE TO ACCESS FROM THE ACCOMPANYING MUNICIPALITY (PROVIDED THEY EXIST -WHICH THEY DON’T- CUZ NO ONE HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR OR EVEN INVESTIGATED BEYOND THE DDOS SHIT BUT ACCORDING TO YOU THEIR SHOULD BE HUNDRED IF NOT THOUSANDS OF RECORDS FOR THAT HORRIBLE ANONYMOUS PEACE MOVEMENT)

  11. Says:

    For the record, there were about 5 scilons per anon. The anons were better protesters then them. The scilons were still outnumbered in spirit and drive, and it shows. Anons still busted their protest. They only protested for an hour in front of the Moscone Center before quiting and doing a long retreat into their exhibit and out the back doors.

  12. Sponge Says:

    Interesting development today. The “medical diagnosis” for scientology/CCHR from the APA is officially….. YOU’RE A HATE GROUP.
    News report from medical news site, Med Page today (the video is a must see)….
    http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/APA/14276

  13. Cornelius Futz Says:

    I hope that the APA gets more public with their statement about CCHR, than just an internal publication, but I have a feeling they won’t. They don’t want to incite individual members of Scientology to start acting as rogue members, like the few pro-lifers who bomb abortion clinics. I think they understand that Scientologists are brainwashed but relatively non-violent against individual shrinks anyway.

    The APA is well aware of the general attitude as well as organized activities Scientology engages in, to try to shut down shrinks involved in litigation etc.

    Who better to understand the individual psyche and group mentality of Scientology anyway, than shrinks?

    I still think, even after the Cruise stuff (Lauer, the leaked video) most people think that Scientologists are just against drugs for themselves, and have no idea that as an organization, they are believing in, “obliterating” the psychiatric profession, and replacing it with, what else, Scientology. After all, they believe they are the authorities on the mind, and getting people off drugs.

    Thanks for the long explanation and effort in finding out many who showed up to protest didn’t know CCHR was Scientology. Not in this video, but in another one I saw, nearly everyone was carrying the same three or four signs, and it also explains why several of the people looked awkward about being there. Probably still stunned by having to buy their own t-shirt, and then maybe finding out they just bought it from mega-billions Scientology! I thought some were scientologists who were herded into going, but it didn’t make sense that they weren’t weren’t chanting along.

    I can’t help believe that some of the CCHR sympathizers who didn’t know it was Scientology wouldn’t be a little concerned about the sign that said “turning our children into killers,” not to mention the whole “industry of death” exhibit, if let’s say, they were there solely to protest the overuse of Ritalin.

    Also, about the CCHR count being 200 or so, rather than the 2000 Scientology announced. That is paltry given Scientology’s resources or methods of urging members. Could be a strong indication they are crumbling, or just another example that Scientology exaggerates their membership numbers, and zeal of their members. It wasn’t like they got a dozen of their Hollywood people to lead the parade.

    Again, they are straddling this weird situation of pretending CCHR isn’t just Scientology hiding behind a front group. It makes them appear nuttier than ever.

    The blackshirt theme by CCHR reminded me of Mussolini’s fascists. Since Scientolgists don’t know their own history, not expecting them to be in touch with the history of other groups.

  14. 4223 Says:

    We had far more than thirty people, hell, I can name more than that by name. We had anons from all over the West coast. We were outnumbered by about 3-1, but we had well over a hundred on short notice, and the scilons, who planned for over a year, only managed about three hundred. As their own poster advertised, they were pretty well ‘downstat’ with fewer than four hundred of their expected two thousand.

    So much for the masters of the universe.

  15. A Suggspinas Says:

    I am not into Scientology at all and see it as a deadly, blood sucking cult.

    I also think Psychiatrists and other doctors are drugging the American population to an unprecedented and unacceptable degree.

    Psychiatry went from analysis and personal healing (as well as One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest horror scenarios) to being junkies.


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